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  1. BBMW
    November 27, 2013

    I've been hearing this crap since the '80. Nothing is going to change. The city and state are not going to get involved in deciding who can rent commercial space in NYC.

    The chains have deeper pockets and will continue to take over.

    • steve
      November 28, 2013

      BBMW; You need to read last Villager issue , Sharon Woolums story on a bill bottled up on committee for three years which would give rights to tenants to negotiate fair rents. New York State had a strict commercial rent control law for 18 years (1945-63) due to over speculation during WWII. Twice the city council was ready to pass a milder form of regulation based upon Arbitration and in both cases , it was stopped by the Speaker's office acting on behalf of real estate. What know body understands is that even the franchises are closing due to the
      out of control greed. Log onto savenycjobs.org for clear story

      • kris
        December 5, 2013

        While not a fan of big chains all over, I find it odd that one can sympathize with a corner bodega that pays immigrants less than min wage and makes their money off low income residents who overpay for pepsi.

        If the local bodega is so good, how do they stay in business, by selling pepsi, pringles, coor's,etc , they usually aren't selling craft beer and if they are , I'm pretty sure the bulk of the business is the same stuff sold by 7 eleven.

  2. LES Deborah
    November 28, 2013

    You'll get nowhere with Brad Hoylman and his pandering. Hoylman was the mouthpiece for the NY Partnership, the trade group for NYC developers and landlords. Of course EVCC is the child of Michael Rosen, himself a developer. Isn't this article a waste of electrons?

  3. shmnyc
    November 29, 2013

    The desire to “relocalize” economies, and to reorient production on a much smaller scale, is motivated more by nostalgia — and in many cases, by a nostalgia for something that never existed — than any serious analysis.

    Larger firms are far more productive than smaller ones. Small-is-beautiful advocates rarely tell us how tiny enterprises would produce locomotives, computers, or telephones.

    People who care about workers should also rethink their passion for tininess: the experience of actually-existing small businesses is that they’re not great employers, with poor pay, cheesier benefits, and more dangerous workplaces. Bigger firms are easier to regulate, more open to public scrutiny, friendlier to affirmative action programs, and more vulnerable to union organizing.

    Small Is Not Beautiful

    • Dominique Camacho
      November 30, 2013

      Small business makes the world turn. It is the main economy.

      As a small business owner and employer of 16 people in the East Village for the past 10 years – I can tell you that my employees have been much better paid by far, much better treated by far – why would they stay with me for 4, 5, 6 and some 7 years? Can they make $9.50/hr as a starting salary, $13.50 as a salesperson and $18.50 as a manager at a big box? I don't think so.

      My friends who work in large corporations, which I have as well, are envious of my ability to actually make decisions, to turn on a dime, actually take advantage of market trends – small businesses are ounce by ounce ten times more productive.

  4. Michael Rosen
    November 29, 2013

    Whether "small is beautiful" or not is a judgement based on one's value of heterogeneity, creativity, community, intimacy versus… all those things I think less of. Try to leave your keys at The Source for a friend to come feed and walk your dog then try to leave them at Kinkos. And say hi to Santo. All one's choice. We choose, in the EVCC, for the intimacy of community. A local business owner shops in stores nearby, eats in neighborhood restaurants, their children play in the park. Or send community profits to Bentonville. Ours is serious analysis. Not "MBA speak" of efficiency.

    As to the EVCC, it is the same organization that achieved landmark status for old PS 64, the former Charas El Bohio. The same organization that spearheaded the successful rezoning of 111 square blocks of the Lower East Side. The same organization that played critical steps in the saving of St. Brigid's. That played steps with wonderful others in the larger landmark zone in the community. And more.

    As to me as a dreaded "developer"… such nonsense. Most of my Lower East Side (and New York) real estate development was building housing for women coming out of the prison system, shelter for beaten women, NYC Partnership and LESPMHA housing, housing for homeless veterans and homeless people with HIV, and more. I developed one residential building in the Lower East Side.

    I spent more years as a community organizer and writer in the Lower East Side than as a developer.

    Now I am building in agriculture company here in Vietnam. Wonderful street life here in Hanoi. Hello to my friends back home.

    • Kris
      December 5, 2013

      And what happens if you have a dispute with a small business or you pay high prices or folks who work for that small bodega make below minimum wages and are forced to work even on weekends?

      Although a neighborhood full of large chains is boring, most small bodegas are often reselling that big companies products, the neighborhood bodega is thriving because they overcharge for coca cola and budweiser,
      and who's buying it, hipsters?

  5. rob
    November 30, 2013

    @ shmnyc — Many sound, important points of analysis except for a few not-small facts: Walmart, McDonalds. Re-anaylse.
    Since you mention it, giant corporate capitalism has failed to fix our declining (and among wealthy industrialized nations, embarrassing) locomotive system, also our health care, fossil fuel dependency, global climate change, pharmaceutical scams, environmental poisons and depredations etc. The enemy (giant corporations) of your enemy (NO711) isn't your friend. Small business has its weaknesses, as you show. Big business has its strengths for sure — scant comfort but reason to be very afraid. Let's not jump from frying pan to fire. How about strong government free of giant corporate influence?

  6. NYC Parent
    December 2, 2013

    What is lost in all this is any sense of individual freedom.
    What a quaint concept.
    Once upon a time, believe it or not, people had this thing called property.
    They could then open stores with it, without everyone else imposing their concept of how they want you to run your store, how large it should be, and what prices you should charge.
    And, believe it or not, if people did not want to shop there, i.e. spend their money, they could decide whether they wanted to do this.

    Yes, zoning is an accepted part of the urban environment.
    But all of these issues should start with the premise that, unless there is a compelling reason, ones property should be one's own, and government compulsion on how you should be allowed to dispose of your property should be the last resort (whether or not exercised in the name of the "community").

    Some will call this "wacky Teabagger stuff"
    But who, really, is the radical now?
    Those who have some residual respect for those quaint notions of individuality, or those who will cede their entire lives to self-appointed busybodies, who profess to know what's best for everyone else, and who have no restraint when it comes to coercing others to do what they think they ought to do?

    • Guest
      December 3, 2013

      Tell that to the people who used to live where the Barclays Center is now.

  7. Another NYC Parent
    December 2, 2013

    Well said NYC Parent!! Liberals or the cool new lib know as "progressives" are always preaching tolerance but it is only the specific tolerance that matches their twisted worldview and only when it benefits their causes. The manic attempts to shut down and shame free enterprise (and their neighbors who support them) while using free speech is the ultimate destination in self-serving hypocrisy. The same bored activists and babies in stuy town who think, act and speak like they own the entire property despite the fact they pay virtually nothing in rent. Bitter bitter bitter…. All I hear anymore is a version of adult toddlers whining whah whah whah.

  8. BBMW
    December 3, 2013

    What I find hilarious about this whole issue is that a big catalyst for the current version of this drive was the opening of the 7-11 on Avenue A. Once this happened, there were "complaints" that it was undercutting the local stores on prices of staple items. If there isn't a better argument for now allowing anyone to open a store (chain or not), I really can't think of one. Competition is a good thing.

    • Guest
      December 3, 2013

      Collaboration is a much better thing. Everything in life doesn't have to be a battle.

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    January 8, 2014

    Once upon a time, believe it or not, people had this thing called property.
    They could then open stores with it, without everyone else imposing their concept of how they want you to run your store, how large it should be, and what prices you should charge.
    And, believe it or not, if people did not want to shop there, i.e. spend their money, they could decide whether they wanted to do this.

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