David McWater resigns from C.B. 3; Led on rezoning, SPURA

Photo courtesy Bowery Boogie David McWater giving his resignation speech from Community Board 3 on Tuesday evening at P.S. 20.

Photo courtesy Bowery Boogie
David McWater giving his resignation speech from Community Board 3 on Tuesday evening at P.S. 20.

BY LINCOLN ANDERSON | ORIGINALLY PUBLISHED SEPT 24, 2013 | UPDATED SEPT. 26, 2013 |  An oversize presence on Community Board 3 for more than a decade, David McWater announced his resignation at C.B. 3’s monthly full-board meeting on Tuesday evening, Sept. 24.

As first reported in a special online article in The Villager, McWater told the newspaper on Monday afternoon that he would resign the following day.

Speaking after the full-board’s public session on Tuesday, McWater gave a brief, 10-minute speech. He thanked former City Councilmember Margarita Lopez, who he said, “really salvaged me when I was a goof-off at 27, 28.” He thanked Andrew Berman, executive director of the Greenwich Village Society for Historic Preservation, and former fellow board member Harvey Epstein for being “unsung heroes” on the East Village / Lower East Side rezoning and also, in Epstein’s case, the Seward Park Urban Renewal Area. McWater also thanked C.B. 3 District Manager Susan Stetzer and other fellow board members who were his allies in the initiatives he led, or who had mentored him when he first came on the board.

McWater said the decision to leave the board was his own, and that he wasn’t pressured out, that he had the support of the Manhattan borough president. He said his father died earlier this year, adding, “I had decided sometime ago not to reapply for reappointment in April.”

“Any of you in this room who may have mistreated me, I forgive you,” he said. “And if there are any of you who feel mistreated by me, I hope you’ll forgive me, too.”

Then he handed over the microphone for the last time and briskly walked up the aisle and out the door, and was gone down the sidewalk.

Before his remarks, board members — some probably already having learned the news by reading The Villager article — had come over to McWater to wish him well.

On Monday afternoon, McWater spoke to The Villager in two telephone interviews, during the latter of which he said he planned to resign from the board. During the second conversation, which was more than an hour long, he reflected on his C.B. 3 career and its high points, as well as his frustrations.

McWater said that on Monday afternoon he initially had considered only stepping down from the board’s State Liquor Authority Committee, but that a few hours later, after thinking it over, he decided to resign from the board completely.

In May 2006, at a City Hall steps rally to celebrate the Landmarks Preservation Commission’s decision to consider designating the old P.S. 64 / Charas / El Bohio, from left, then C.B. 3 Chairperson David McWater, Councilmember Rosie Mendez, local activist / dancer Clara Ruf-Maldonado, Congressmember Nydia Velazquez and Borough President Scott Stringer.

In May 2006, at a City Hall steps rally to celebrate the Landmarks Preservation Commission’s decision to consider designating the old P.S. 64 / Charas / El Bohio, from left, then C.B. 3 Chairperson David McWater, Councilmember Rosie Mendez, local activist / dancer Clara Ruf-Maldonado, Congressmember Nydia Velazquez and Borough President Scott Stringer.

‘Too tired, too frazzled’

“I’m just too tired, too frazzled and don’t have the time that I used to,” he said. “It’s very time-consuming and it’s very emotionally debilitating,” he said of serving on the board.

McWater, 47, chaired the East Village / Lower East Side community board for four consecutive one-year terms from June 2004 to June 2008.

A bar owner, he currently owns three bars, Doc Holliday’s and The Library, both on Avenue A, and Milano’s, on East Houston St. near Mulberry St. In the past, he owned more bars.

McWater said he is most proud of two major initiatives he shepherded through to approval, the 2008 East Village / Lower East Side rezoning — which added height caps for new construction for a 110-block area — and, more recently, the redevelopment plan for the long-dormant Seward Park Urban Renewal Area.

Last week, Mayor Bloomberg held a press conference to announce that developers had been selected for the massive $1.1 billion SPURA project, located at the foot of the Williamsburg Bridge.

The first telephone conversation began with The Villager asking McWater about a tip the paper had received: that it seems he does not live in New York City anymore, which would bar him from being a community board member. McWater countered that what the paper should be calling him about is the recent selection of a developer for the SPURA project site.

He also took a shot at a certain Community Board 2 member, who he accused of having taken a free “three-year membership” from the Meatpacking District Soho House, who then turned around and opposed Soho House’s Ludlow St. liquor-license application. That’s another story The Villager should do, he countered.

Dave McWater circa 2004 coaching his L.E.S. Gauchos baseball team, a free program for local youth.

Dave McWater circa 2004 coaching his L.E.S. Gauchos baseball team, a free program for local youth.

Touts his triumphs

“I’ve done more than any community board member in the history of New York City,” McWater declared. “Nobody in the last 20 years did anything like the Lower East Side rezoning and SPURA. The community owes me a debt — nobody’s ever done what we’ve done. Nobody — nobody ever did anything like SPURA and the rezoning.

“The proudest moments in my life were the Lower East Side rezoning and SPURA,” he said. “With the Lower East Side rezoning we stopped N.Y.U. in their tracks at Third Ave.; except for a few areas, you can’t go over eight stories. We stopped the dorms, we stopped the hotels. It’s the greatest bulwark against gentrification the Lower East Side could ever have — and I believe, in my heart, we saved the homes of hundreds and possibly thousands of people, protecting them from being harassed out of their homes by landlords and developers to build buildings.

“When I started SPURA, people said, ‘You’ll never be able to do it,’ ” he continued. “All the votes on the Lower East Side zoning and SPURA — despite people wanting to make me a lightning rod — every committee vote, every full board vote, every City Planning vote, every Borough Board vote, City Council — unanimous.

“It was miraculous,” he said of SPURA. “We took one of the most fractious communities in Manhattan and we brought a consensus. It was remarkable, it was a lot of work. We got 500 affordable units, 3,400 construction jobs and 1,600 permanent jobs.”

‘Third-largest rezoning EVER’

Regarding the East Village / Lower East Side rezoning, he said, “It’s the third-largest rezoning in the history of Manhattan. The only people who did anything bigger were Bloomberg on the Hudson Yards and a big rezoning by Robert Moses. It was a very big deal.

“I defy anybody to find two accomplishments by any other community board member like that. Find just one,” McWater declared. “SPURA never would have happened if we didn’t do the Lower East Side rezoning — it taught people that we could do it.

“I’m proud of my legacy,” he stated.

However, at the same time, he said, “I’m tired of fighting over State Liquor Authority issues.”

After stepping down as the board’s chairperson in June 2008, McWater has been chairperson of C.B. 3’s Land Use, Zoning, Public and Private Housing Committee, and also a member of the board’s S.L.A. Committee, which weighs in on liquor license applications.

Anti-bar resident groups have recently gained momentum following the denial of a liquor license at 106 Rivington St. both by C.B. 3 and the S.L.A. Often, C.B. 3 recommends denial of a liquor license for a nightlife establishment, only to have the S.L.A. approve it. But in the case of 106 Rivington, the authority supported the community board, which opposed the application last October.

Clash caught on video

Things recently came to head on Mon., Sept. 16, at the board’s S.L.A. Committee meeting over an application for a new licensed establishment at 120 Orchard St. by a group calling itself Pure 120. Neighborhood opponents said they don’t want another nightclub there.

McWater arrived at the meeting late because he had been at an earlier meeting with officials from the city’s Economic Development Corporation regarding SPURA, for which the mayor would announce the developers two days later. When McWater got to the S.L.A. Committee meeting, Sara Romanoski, an Orchard St. resident, who also happens to be the executive director of the East Village Community Coalition, accused him of only attending so he could vote on the 120 Orchard St. application.

The much bigger McWater lost his cool and got in the smaller woman’s face in an incident that was captured on several videos and went viral. He was subsequently publicly chided by the committee’s chairperson, Alexandra Militano, that as a board member he has to hold himself to “a higher standard” of behavior and not act like that.

“She said I had showed up at the meeting just for that one issue,” McWater said of Romanoski. “All I said is, ‘You have no right to talk to me that way.’

“It’s frustrating,” he said. “The S.L.A. stories always get framed in the context of me being a bar owner.”

The LES Dwellers group was the driving force behind the defeat of the 106 Rivington application, and they have also been fighting a liquor license application for Soho House on Ludlow St. in what’s known as “Hell Square” by residential neighbors.

On Soho House opposition

As for Soho House, McWater said, “It’s not on my radar. I couldn’t care less about it.” However, he added, “I think the Dwellers were crazy not to make a deal with Soho House. Soho House owns the building — they will get a hotel license.”

In general, he said, all the sturm und drang over liquor licenses, in the end, accomplishes little, since nine times out of 10, the S.L.A. approves the application no matter what.

“It’s just song and dance, it’s just theater,” he said. “It doesn’t matter if the community board votes yes or no.”

On the other hand, he said, the stipulations for the bars’ operating hours, noise-abatement measures and so forth that the community board adds to its resolutions do matter.

Basically, he said, LES Dwellers and E.V.C.C. want “No” votes on all liquor license applications in the areas that they cover.

Blasting these two as overly narrowly focused groups, McWater said, “I don’t think one-issue people should be on community boards, and I don’t think one-issue groups should be given credence. Crusaders don’t make the best community board members,” he added. “Crusaders don’t reach consensus.

“People want to organize, they want to attack me,” he said. “Yeah, the Dwellers are like a million groups — they want to organize. I just don’t want to go through it again.”

Questions about residency

In addition, McWater was being dogged by questions about whether he currently lives in New York City. Community board members can live outside of the district for the board on which they serve if, for example, they have a business or work on an organization within that district. But, according to the City Charter, if a person resides outside of New York City, he or she is prohibited from serving on a New York City community board.

According to information obtained by The Villager, it appears that McWater’s legal residence, in fact, may be in Lambertville, N.J. A Lexis search of court filings shows that the State of New York has issued at least 11 warrants for back taxes — a couple for as much as $47,000 and $25,000, others for four-figure amounts — owed by McWater. In each case, the address these warrants were sent to was in Lambertville, N.J. Ten of these state tax warrants are dated April 23, 2013, and one is dated earlier, May 24, 2011.

The tax liens are filed for entitites identified on the court filings as, among others, “NGE,” probably referring to Nice Guy Eddie’s, a former McWater bar on Avenue A, as well as “Lower East Side Entities LLC” and “Preserve Milanos Inc.”

McWater told The Villager on Monday that he acquired the historic Milano’s bar around 2006 “when they were going to tear down the place and turn it into a hipster lounge for kids.”

He said that, when he was starting out, he learned the ropes of the bar business working at Milano’s, and so felt obligated to preserve it.

B.P. was on the case

The borough president appoints and has the power to remove community board members, all of whom are unsalaried volunteers.

Asked last week if McWater is a New York City resident, a spokesperson for Borough President Scott Stringer responded on Monday, “This matter is currently under review.”

McWater said he lives on First Ave. between E. Third and Fourth Sts., and even invited The Villager over to verify that he lives there.

“You’re welcome to come over and have a drink with me at my home,” he said.

He said he’s lived at four places in the East Village and Lower East Side since 1989, including E. 11th, Stanton and E. 12th Sts., as well as on First Ave.

As for the Lambertville address, he said, “I do have an address out there — I have a summer home out there.” He added that he has had a summer home since 1996, though not always in Lambertville.

‘I live in the city’

However, McWater wasn’t comfortable with the line of questioning. He also blasted “the blogs.”

“This is the new age of TMZ and all that bulls—,” he said with annoyance. “I live in the city.”

Asked point blank by The Villager where he files his taxes, he said, “I’m not answering any more questions about this. I can’t believe you’re stooping this low.”

A bit later, he said his taxes are “very complicated.”

Asked how often each week he’s at the Lambertville address, he again said, “I’m not answering any more questions about this.”

The first phone conversation ended.

McWater then e-mailed The Villager back a bit later saying to call him. It was during this second conversation that he said he planned to resign.

Built up baseball team

In addition to his work with C.B. 3 on SPURA and the E.V. / L.E.S. rezoning, McWater, wearing another hat — a red baseball cap — has always  been immensely proud of his work with the L.E.S. Gauchos youth baseball program.

“At our peak we had eight teams on the field, 150 kids coached by two former big leaguers, all free,” he said. “I didn’t just run it, I coached it. I coached eight seasons on the field. We went to three N.A.B.F. World Series. One of our players, Jonathan Gonzalez, played in the minor leagues for two years.”

Stomach problems forced McWater to the bench a few years ago and he’s been less active with the team.

A brief stint as a movie producer didn’t turn out as successfully.

As for what’s next for him, his love of sports will be in the mix again. He said he’ll be “managing some fighters — on the Eastern Seaboard, Philly, Atlantic City.” In the early 1990s he also managed boxers, but that was around when his bars were starting to do well, so he got out of the sport.

Blasts ‘single-issue people’

Though not on the community board, he’ll still be around, he assured.

“I’m not going to retire — I’m not that old,” he said. “It’s not like I’m leaving. I’m involved in my community. I’m not like these single-issue people.”

But it was the single-issue people who, in the end, helped him reach his decision.

“This last controversy is the end,” he said of the flare-up at the Sept. 16 S.L.A. Committee meeting. “I mean, SPURA’s done,” he added.

Originally from Oklahoma, McWater attended New York University, where he studied Third World politics.

“I wanted to be a revolutionary and save the world,” he recalled.

Inspired by Lopez campaign

He has very fond memories of working to help get Margarita Lopez elected to the City Council in 1997, which he said sparked the birth of his own community activism. Back then, he introduced the candidate around to his many friends — “I knew a lot of people,” he said — to build support for her.

“That was a grassroots campaign. We were in people’s kitchens,” he recalled. “The neighborhood was in such flux, the neighborhood could have gone either way.

“Margarita awakened the best part of me — the service part,” he said. “This is the thing I was good at.”

McWater was subsequently appointed by then-Borough President C. Virginia Fields to a special committee to study New York City nightlife, which ultimately led to his getting appointed to C.B. 3 in 2000.

“I’m probably a mediocre businessman. This will probably be the biggest accomplishment of my life — I mean, SPURA was a $1 billion deal. I’ll never equal that in another realm. I don’t even know how I would. I’m not going to coach big league baseball.

“I like making things happen,” he said. “I like having a vision. It’s like the Gauchos — we were a national power for a few years there, and definitely a city power.”

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34 Responses to David McWater resigns from C.B. 3; Led on rezoning, SPURA

  1. Well, he certainly is the accomplished NYC Community Board in history FROM NEW JERSEY! Mohammad Ali was humble and soft-spoken in comparison to this guy. Hope he didn't sprain his arm patting himself on the back so much.

    • Some journalist should investigate where the money McWaters collected from the sale of "Nice Guy Eddie's" went and in what form it was dispensed. This is a man that cheated the State by not delivering Sales tax his businesses collected, thereby cheating citizens of the services those taxes would have paid for. Since he has numerous tax liens against him it's highly probable that the people who bought Nice Guy Eddie's (Tower Reality, same owners of Gallery Bar on Orchard) paid him cash under the table. How much was that bar really purchased for?

  2. Lincoln, You were obviously asking all the right questions during that interview to get McWater to call back and resign from the Board. Tax liens, not living in NYC, attacking a woman at a public meeting, and having his bar Uncle Mikes shut down after being declared a "public nuisance"…..what was this guy doing on CB3 anyway. David Troutman

  3. "I’ve done more than any community board member in the history of New York City,”

    This insane statement shows the unbridled grandiosity of this most porcine of community board members, a real ruff-tuff cream puff, who demonstrates his manhood by getting in the face of a petite woman.

    The LES rezoning was in fact a developer's dream come true, with upzoning in most of the area, and SPURA's affordable housing – which Porky had little to do with – is "affordable" to those who earn up to $125,000 a year. What a joke.

    Send this Okie snitch back home for good.

  4. “With the Lower East Side rezoning… except for a few areas, you can’t go over eight stories…. It’s the greatest bulwark against gentrification the Lower East Side could ever have — and I believe, in my heart, we saved the homes of hundreds and possibly thousands of people, protecting them from being harassed out of their homes by landlords and developers to build buildings.”

    I guess he doesn't consider the the 13 hotels currently operating or under construction below Houston, devastating the homes, businesses, community and character of the LES, part of the LES.

  5. Bullies have no place in civil society. Not in schools; not in businesses; not on community boards. Good riddence. He should have been gone long ago.

  6. Wow, Mr. McWater tendering your resignation with such grace and humility absent of bitterness and personal attacks…Here is some free PR advice after a video circulates showing you unhinged attacking a woman 5xtimes smaller than you, and where you are heard calling a man who served his country in Iraq a "Marine goon" when he stepped in to diffuse the situation, and vowing to "bury" Aaron Sosnick of EVCC, a true pillar of this community,: PUBLICLY, 1) TAKE RESPONSIBILITY for your actions. 2) APOLOGIZE for your actions. 3) APOLOGIZE for disgracing CB3 4) End with a simple I am GRATEFUL l I had the for the opportunity to serve this wonderful community. 5) EXIT stage left making your way back home to NJ to self-reflect. Mr. McWater those that are truly accomplished and have made a difference in this world do not need to tout it. You can stop shouting at us from the printed page bullying us to accept your distorted version of yourself… because after 10 long years we no longer have to listen to you anymore.

  7. The question of Conflict of Interest among Community Board members needs to be addressed by the Manhattan Borough President (and other BPs).

    • Yes, McWater's Conflict of Interest needs to be addressed, but don't hold your breath.

      NYC Campaign Finance Board records since 2003 – about the time McWater got involved with the community board – reveal that he has contributed the incredible sum $13,000 to local politicians – including the past two borough presidents and the past two councilmembers, the very people who appoint community board members.

      His largesse exceeds the combined contributions of the other 49 board members! See for yourself at the CFB website: http://www.nyccfb.info/searchabledb/

      It is gratifying to learn that not only the presence of bullies but also the stench of play-for-pay politics is being removed from the community.

    • It defies comprehension and common sense that this bar owner, who "currently owns three bars, Doc Holliday’s and The Library, both on Avenue A, and Milano’s, on East Houston St. near Mulberry St. and, in the past, more bars” is on Community Board 3’s State Liquor Authority Committee.

      This is precisely why community board members should be elected rather than appointed. The laws regulating community boards in New York City are antiquated, elitist, undemocratic and sorely in need of reform. Community boards should represent the interests and concerns of the communities they purportedly serve, not the board members’ own self interests. Are you listening Bill de Blasio?

      • You would have elections for a fully volunteer position?!
        People who get into the trenches in the most controversial local issues, with no reward but getting hammered by the best organized anti everything groups?
        How do you run elections for a volunteer, unpaid position?

        If you've ever watched a community board in action, you would see that, to the best of their abilities, the boards CURRENTLY DO represent the interests and concerns of their fellow neighbors, with dissent and ultimately a decision.

        What you're talking about is opening up your local community board to massive electioneering by monied interests with business in the board area, trying to elect their puppets.

        You can't be serious.

        • PS, no need to act like you're the only person to ever attend a CB meeting. I'm sure I'm not the only reader who can speak from personal experience that your opinion here is not entirely correct.

          • As usual, an anonymous person opens their comment with the petty and personal, attempting arrogantly to explain the basis of another person's statement, and then finishes with speaking on behalf of a whole lot of other people.

            The takeaway? I oppose elected community boards, as an opening for developers to stack them with expensive campaigns funded by anonymous donors.

            Anonymous, like you. And, since when could "opinions", become "entirely correct". I suppose you're the person in charge of deciding for us all? I'll take some solace in the possibility that you might deign to judge mine might be "partially correct", or "somewhat correct".

          • correction: "judge mine TO be…"

  8. He calls block associations from neighborhoods that are recognized as "over saturated" with liquor licenses by both CB3 and the SLA as "one issue" groups because they consistently oppose they addition of licenses. Those of us who live on blocks of over saturation oppose additional licenses because of the huge imbalance between businesses with licenses and regular daytime businesses without licenses in our neighborhoods. When the amount of licenses is reduced and a balance is restored then we'll be more amenable to supporting licenses. If you're boat is sinking it's very hard to see the value in adding another bucket of water.

  9. Relieved to see the demise of this bully. The distraction he created for CB3 was bad for progress in our neighborhood.
    LES Dwellers should thank him for the free publicity he gave them in his interview.
    There is nothing wrong with being a one issue organization when quality of life is the one issue.

    • So right….quality of life is worth standing up for, a single issue to rally around. The logic of Mr. McWater would suggest pro-choice, anti-gun, gay rights, civil rights, etc groups, all single issue groups with clear mandates, should always strive to reach general consensus instead of fighting for what is right and demanding change, equality and fairness. David Mcwater spent 10 years telling people in this community they had to compromise and agree to stipulations that were never honored or enforced. Look what consensus got us. Your reign is over…fear-mongering tactics, spewing misinformation, claiming you and the CB knew what the SLA would do, and bullying residents all come to an end tonight. Consensus Mr. Mcwater wants comes in the form of his resignation. Enjoy your summer house in NJ.

  10. Great article.

    Does anyone understand his comment: "Soho House owns the building — they will get a hotel license"? What is a hotel license? Does that allow the place to serve liquor?

    • He has no idea what he talking about. They are not applying for a hotel license because this property doesn't have a hotel. They are applying for a club license…and just because you own a building doesn't mean you are not required to meet the legal threshold to obtain a license. Mr. Mcwater just as he did for 10 years and does in this article, throws out inaccurate information to confuse and manipulate residents. And can someone please tell me what is wrong with one issue groups?

  11. Adios Mcwaters, best news I have heard in a while
    You should never have been on the board to begin with
    I hope you get what you have coming to you in life.

    You were #$%^ from the minute I met you, totally disrespectful and condescending
    the community will be better off without you

    thanks for the memories (not)

  12. Yes, this is a terrific step for the neighborhood, but McW is just the tip of the ice berg. I'm always willing to give Ms. Li and Ms. Stetzer the benefit of the doubt – they have very difficult jobs – but they really need to get a hold on this CB. There are others that need to step aside as well. No one can look at CB3 and claim things have gone well. No one here is building a legacy to be proud of. When such hideous changes are smearing everyone, the good and the bad, there's no place else to look but at the top.

    • Ms. Stetzer needs to go too, but if not she needs a talking to by the MBP ie stop meddling. Gigi should lead not be led. With McWater's departure the Board has a chance to regroup and correct itself. Don't hold your breath though.

  13. It's great to have local business owners & operators on the Community Board, and and to have them sit on committees that impact their businesses. HOWEVER, there should be rules about how many bar owners and others directly related to the eating / drinking industry can be on the SLA committee for each CB (just as there should be rules for the numbers of real estate related industry types on the Land Use committee, etc.).

    Are there any such rules?

    Are the rules and regulations by which CBs operate available on line?

  14. There is an online Community Board handbook, which deals with a number of issues, but does not include any limitation on numbers for specific committees, although rules regarding conflicts of interest are laid out from P. 148 – 158:
    http://www.nyc.gov/html/cau/downloads/pdf/handboo

  15. rules governing Community Boards are in City Charter. Rules re Conflict of Interest are made by decisions by Conflict of Interest Board. You cannot discriminate against one type of business–such as limit the number of bar owners/workers any more than you can limit the number of teachers or any other worker.The only limitation is that there cannot be more than 50% of NYC employees as members.

    • But the CB doesn't have to rubber stamp every liquor license application that comes before it. When over saturation is apparent in a certain area the applicant must prove a public benefit. Better booze or richer clientele is not a qualifier.

  16. I wonder what McWater thinks when he reads how many people abhor his arrogance, his appearance and his bullying.

    The guy who thinks he was the best ever CB member finds out that everyone thinks he is the worst. LMAO

  17. McWater can rightly claim that he was one of those at the wheel when this neighborhood went through it's biggest changes since the Slocum sank. But, we can't find a single person who thinks these changes have been a good thing. It's a sad legacy that he and his cohorts will have carved on their tombstones.

  18. Notice that McWater, even with the updated coverage, did not deny Jersey residency.

    And what does it mean regarding outgoing Manhattan Borough President Scott Stringer (who appointed McWater to CB3):

    " …he wasn’t pressured out, that he had the support of the Manhattan borough president"

    Perhaps that Stringer supports McWater's decision to quit?

    Far less messy for both of them.

  19. McWater is part of the LES that I liked, a unique character who accomplished some very good work in the face of the onslaught of wealth coming to alter this neighborhood. I personally, will miss his presence – whether I agreed or disagreed on any particular issue. His worked hard for the LES which he cared about and his views were complex and thoughtful – trying to pigeonhole him as a "bad guy" doesn't work for me.

  20. Good riddance

  21. Re: K Webster. Yes, he was a bad guy. His thinking was not complex at all – approve every single liquor license that comes before the committee.

  22. This quote really bothers me:

    “In general, he said, all the sturm und drang over liquor licenses, in the end, accomplishes little, since nine times out of 10, the S.L.A. approves the application no matter what.

    “It’s just song and dance, it’s just theater,” he said. “It doesn’t matter if the community board votes yes or no.”

    On the other hand, he said, the stipulations for the bars’ operating hours, noise-abatement measures and so forth that the community board adds to its resolutions do matter.”

    The S.L.A. presently insists that it is fully committed to honoring the C.B.’s recommendations. This remains to be seen. On the other hand, here in the Village we’ve found that most bar owners blatantly disregard their stipulations, especially regarding hours and closing doors and windows. It took the community 2 full years to get the illegal nightclub Veranda (which simply changed its Method of Operation on its own as soon as it opened) closed.

  23. I'm with K.Webster…behind his arrogance and bullying (your words not mine), is one the most caring and thoughtful people I know. You may not like his politics, but he cared deeply about CB3, and got off his butt to do something about it. The entire community board doesn't have enough fingers to count the people he has helped both personally and professionally.

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